Both plaintiffs were able to adequately use their computers for approximately 18 months and two years, respectively.
Can't make that up. :eek:
I wouldn't want to add that into the next ad-campaign, though. :p
Still, like others said, I got a 15" rMBP replacement so...
the 18 month statement is highly ignorant.
Well, technically, it's beyond the 12-month warranty, and that's all that matters in terms of the lawsuit.
We've had to replace several 2010 & 2011 MBPs in recent months, all failing with graphics cards issues. It's a real pity, as otherwise they were still running great - fast, no fan issues, no battery issues. By comparison we had several 1st gen Intel MBPs and those were dreadful, random shutdowns, failing power adaptors, bulging batteries, melting cables, fans failing... On the plus side, I got a 2013 Retina MBP with SSD so no complaints.
Add to that the fact that most modern electronic devices have almost no moving parts, and that they require no maintenance and that other than dropping them or submerging them in water (which have telltale signs), there is nothing a user can do to cause the machine to fail, so almost all faults are the manufacturer's fault and are a matter of bad luck to the user.
Add to that that anything you buy today will come with at the very minimum 2, but more commonly 3 years of warranty, be it a hairdryer, a memory card, a cheap mouse, a hard drive, a car (though most cars come with at least 3-4 years of warranty, with companies like Kia offering 7 years), or any computer not made by Apple (even cheap, unbranded ones).
If Apple makes a computer that is supposed to have a useful life of 3 years (that better be the case given the price and the upgrade cycle), then they should reflect that intention with a guarantee.
You can't spend money based on the HOPE that you will be lucky and that your machine will probably continue to work after 1 year.
There's no other good or service that I can think of that doesn't guarantee some sort of reasonable useful life for the thing you're paying money for.
A warranty means: You don't just buy a product and hope for the best, but rather you have a company's promise and guarantee that the product will have a useful life of a number of years. This means that manufacturers cannot just clunk together a machine from cheap parts that fail within a year, since a user cannot know how long the machine will last at the time of purchase. You can check if it works when you buy it, but you can't check if it will still work in 2 or 3 years because you don't have a time machine. But when the time comes, if you're out of warranty, it's too late to regret the purchase. That's why a warranty is important. 1 year is useless for a product that NO ONE intends to replace on a yearly basis.
Considering the average computer has a life span of 5 years, and the average Mac is nearly double that, the 18 month statement is highly ignorant.
The key here is "average". Just like anything else, some have longer and others have shorter. Like life expectancy numbers, for every early "death", there are several that outlive the average in order to offset.
Considering the average computer has a life span of 5 years, and the average Mac is nearly double that, the 18 month statement is highly ignorant.
If the judge listened to you, then any given warranty term would have no value.
I could say 5 year on my water heater, and in the 6th year you sue me because it broke because 'everyone elses' lasted 6 years or more..
waaa..
both are reasonably past warranty. Thats why you pay for extended warranties if you want them. Choose to no get that extension and well you roll the dice, to accept the consequences..
Well, in a reasonable world.. these days we don't like it, even though you accepted the terms by purchasing it, we just sue and stamp our fee like adolescent spoiled brats.
What? In your original post I thought you trying to make a point that even though one buys a more expensive system they shouldn't have an expectation of longer lifespan. I was trying to refute that idea.
I did. I am just saying that I don't think you can refute or prove something like this without a large body of empirical data
All that says is that they don't build them like they used to. And thanks to this judge, they won't have to.
We're seeing enough anecdotal evidence (through relatively-new social networking outlets) from even diehard Mac users (like I used to be) to support the theory that new Macs won't last 10 years.
This is an odd think to say. How do you know how many contemporary macs will be still in working condition after 10 years? I don't see any evidence that new Macs are of worthier build quality than older ones (quite in contrary, actually). I have taken enough of them apart to say something like this ;)
P.S. Yes, SSDs will certainly fail after 10 years but is has nothing to do with macs per se.
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